When a man goes in to have virtual vacation memories of the planet Mars implanted in his mind, an unexpected and harrowing series of events forces him to go to the planet for real - or is he? This should leave the audience satisfied as it’s technically not a dream.. it’s Quade’s reality from which he never escapes. Or do they get them from somewhere? But upon multiple rewatches and deeper consideration, it’s clear it was real. But those who think it was real, are exactly what went wrong with Quaid, i.e. if actual class value indicates that this passenger survived and predicted class tells you that passenger will die. Only the director didn’t say that, so stop lying. Holding a gun that he took from her to her head, Quaid pressure Lori into revealing that his original identity has been erased and a new one implanted, which included her as his wife so she could watch over him for past six weeks. Wanting to explain away plot holes alone is not enough to justify this possibility, nonetheless it exists. He takes them to Venusville and The Last Resort. Though I would pay to hear him tell himself to “Get your ass to Sacramento!”. Quaid arrives on Mars at a giant domed mining colony half-buried in the martian landscape. The Spotlight shines on Hyo Lee! P.S. He’s supposed to find Quaato and start the reactor, create a blue sky on Mars, beat the bad guy and save the day– VACATION OVER. Fig. They tailor the experience to the patients memories but eventually every patient who goes to Rekal ends up going back to Rekal within their dream. he might be schizoid, and thus the schizoid embolism. According to the dream interpretation, there are things that Rekall intended to happen and things that Rekall did not intend to happen. The book has a couple of interesting twists not in the movie, at least if you like sci-fi. Episode 662: Is It Lost? Quaid jumps on and the two fight, ending with Richter having his arms ripped off and falling to his death. Related Topics. If you think it was all a dream – you are trapped in EGO. Quaid and Melina get to the ruins. He then meets a beautiful woman). He’s wants to be a secret agent and he even pics his dream woman to be part of his dream and she looks exactly like Rachel Ticotin. From this perspective, Total Recall becomes a Man vs God story about the defeat of false gods and the triumph of man's self-determination. 1 si occurrence. “Because you look at Total Recall there is never a preference, let’s say, taken by me or the scriptwriter, to say this is really what he dreams about and this is the truth.”. How could he already know the ending of the film and why would the director include such an obvious plot hole? She clearly tries to dissuade any notions of going to Mars. Mark Lee is the Internet's leading authority on the Terminator movies. All this information is part of the Rekal experience in order to ease the patient out of dream by getting the patient to question the experience by the end of it. To me this look tells me that he’s in on the whole thing and it’s a dirty look as if to say “you better now even think about going there.”. Episode 665: Are We Talking about Hamlet or Axel Foley? Client: Sample Client Test Date: 05/01/2005 Examinee ID: SC0107 Page 3 of 5 HVLT-R Score Summary Table: Form 1 Score Raw score T score Percentile Trial 1 6 40 16 Trial 2 8 39 14 Trial 3 9 35 7 Total Recall 23 37 10 Delayed Recall 9 44 27 Retention (%) 100 55 69 Recognition Hits -- It was all a dream. Saves the day and gets the girl—. On Mars, the doctor TELLS Arnold EXACTLY what’s going to happen– and it HAPPENS. Remember when the nerdy guy in Rekal says: “Ahh that’s a new one, blue skies on Mars” Well, believe it or not Mars like Earth does have a blue sky from time to time, you can google it. Much like Total Recall, ... NEXT: Mulholland Drive & 9 Other Movies That Are Open To Interpretation. This is where the story really proved it was a hallucination, since if it was real then it would require that The explosion rips a hole in the wall, causing depressurization. The real question of the movie is as follows: Elsewhere” is an obvious example: http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/01/26/tommy-can-you-see-moesha/. AKA – real life. (Total Recall makes reference to mutants being clairvoyant/psychic). Richter is intent on killing Quaid who he apparently knew on Mars. If the vacation was designed by Rekall then why did they say Oh blue sky on Mars…never seen that before”? The ego-trip was obviously to make the person believe that they went to Venusville, met a bunch of mutants and Quaato, terraformed Mars, and then became friends with the governor of Mars, and they get a lot of neat pictures and momentos over it; and of course the person knows it was all for fun to make the vacation more interesting. But then again, this is Paul Verhoeven we’re talking about. If it’s supposed to be real, the writer is a hack. False Negatives (FN) – When actual class is yes but predicted class in no. But it’s a long shot. And I seriously doubt they would have made a judgment call on his level of psychosis until he came to. Let’s dig deep into all the parameters shown in the figure above. Harry’s reaction to him mentioning Rekall helps sway me as does Lori’s reactions in the very beginning. When Quaid opens the case a screen plays a recording of himself. >>”Total Recall wasn’t a dream – the sky is blue because of the new atmosphere as a direct result of the events that occurred. Richter and his men retreat and the entire neighborhood is sealed off and the oxygen circulation system and fans feeding the area are turned off. I know there are many reasons why one would say it was all a dream because of so many other coincidences but to me, these reasons are why I say it was all really just a coincidence. Whether he’s brain fried or not is unresolved. When Quaid suffered the schizoid embolism, that doctor naturally took over Quaid’s case, and used a Rekall console to communicate with Quaid since he figured that Quaid would trust him due to knowing him from the commercial– since it would make no sense that he’d be part of a conspiracy on Mars. Does not compute. Total Recall ist ein US-amerikanischer Spielfilm, der am 2. See Spinks, 171 Cal. IT’S FICTION! Hauser tells Quaid how to remove the tracking device from his skull. And the Rekall salesman ADMITS to Arnold, that a guy DID get lobotomized, which backs up his friend’s story. Yes it was. This is the debt to equity ratio interpretation in simple terms. As for fanboys, you and Sarah both sound like them now, literally saying your opinion is right, even disagreeing with the guy who directed the movie. Once you understand these four parameters then we can calculate Accuracy, Precision, Recall and F1 score. They know Houser and hate him so we must assume that Houser has previously attempted to infiltrate the underground and was found out, at least to some extent. 5. Now had the movie been shot totally from Quaid’s perspective, and the viewer only ever saw what Quaid saw as he experienced it, then maybe I would lean towards “it didn’t really happen”. If all of that came from Quaid’s head because he experienced it, then he would have known what was really going on behind the scenes (like us viewers) and been almost omnipotent. Découvrez sa biographie, le détail de ses 50 ans de carrière et toute son actualité Recall in this context is defined as the number of true positives divided by the total number of elements that actually belong to the positive class (i.e. Well…..except that dreamers don’t dream scenes they aren’t in or viewing. If you say it’s a dream then you have to assume the memory implant was successful, and then where would these scenes have come from? When you see Quaid trying to get out of the chair and choking the neck of the president of Recall that was him dreaming of it. It’s a psychotic break, and in fact, Quade’s reality after it all goes wrong. Cohaagan calls Richter after hearing about the firefight and orders him to pull back. Except at the ending credits, one can hear the music indicating it was the end of the dream program. He says everything Quaid has experienced since falling unconscious at ReKall on planet Earth has been a dream due to a “schizoid embolism” and “acute neurological trauma”. Interprétation des coefficients III.Estimations et tests des paramètres IV. 2. It makes the film much more satisfying of an experience. Oh, fantastic! Wouldn’t the best way to do that be to thrust him into a situation where he has reason to question whether or not the recall worked? Cohaagen’s men follow Quaid to Mars and locate him in the immigration and customs facility. One interpretation of this is in terms of how much you ‘pay’ in terms of false positives to obtain true positives. Showing all 6 items Jump to: Summaries (5) Synopsis (1) Summaries. The rest of the curve is the values of Precision and Recall for the threshold values between 0 and 1. On a different note: I think I must be hitting the three-week mark for this interminable nap. A plan so crazy that it actually works. To be real, Cohaagen would have had to bribe the same doctor from the Rekall commerical, to come to Mars, risk his life to confront Quaid and convince him it was a fantasy, and to take a pill? Total Recall : L'actrice Kate Beckinsale a son côté geek. The Ego-Trip involves: We don’t know what Hauser knew. The one factor that clinches the fact that it is all part of his imagination is that "Melina"'s face is shown on the screen right before Quaid passes out. And, if he is omnipotent, why doesn’t he react to that information, and how does that not break his immersion from the fictional reality? Quaid either got his ass to Mars, or he didn’t. Theory #7: The script writers, producers and directors did their best to provide multiple possibilities for audiences to ponder, while leaving enough flexibility in the script to incorporate whatever schlocky action sequences they wanted. if actual class says this passenger did not survive but predicted class tells you that this passenger will survive. But then why would Hauser react so badly to it if it was custom designed just for him by Evil Hauser and Cohaagen? For the first five trials, a 15-item list, List A, is read to the child and he or she is asked to recall words from the list after each presentation. 3. Quaid then kills him for this very reason because it begs the question, why would he be sweating? The precision is given by. When that was thrown at us, we had to think… wait a second, is that fake too? Why would he bother TELLING him all this, if it was REAL and just PLANNED by the bad guy as part of the deception? And why did Melina know Hauser as Quaid. Lists; total recall; About The Author. So yes, you agree with yourself quite well. "Interpretation/Meaning of Performance Measure" choose_username Member Posts: 33 Maven. Precision-Recall. May 2010 edited June 2019 in Help. It is another level of misdirection. However things go wrong when there’s another malfunction, and he has a “bad trip, dude;” and they try to save him by getting him to wake up; but he clings to his fantasy, and ends up living it out to the end… lobotomized. The pre-rekall dreams, the facial expressions from his wife and co-worker when he talks about going to rekall, and the popping a memory cap is what sways me. His brain, presumably prone to flights of fancy and the idea that he is meant for something more, refuses to believe he his dreaming. I. Spécification du modèle . Hey, it’s both true. If he does, he will fall asleep and then wake up at the memory implant facility on Earth. Apparently Verhoeven declared the movie was intentionally ambiguous, – in other words, it’s by design to create this very debate. Things like having the mountain you are sitting on explode and fill the planet with breathable air in 25 seconds saving your life makes sense, if you are in lala land. Total Recall (1990) is a fantastic film. Again, that could be paranoia in a demented state during a hallucination. Go outside. Naturally, you have no memory of actually BEING Hauser, because it was just a part of the dream-SCRIPT. Most of you would have believed the company and taken the pill, believed the wife and gone home…LOL you are all incapable of constructive thought. It's a hard thing for a filmmaker, even an accomplished one, to make a project "his own" when the original is well remembered as a vehicle for a star as big as Arnold Schwarzenegger. Total Recall (2012) is based on the earlier Total Recall (1991). Edgemar offers Doug a pill, “a symbol of his desire to return to reality.” He says Quaid must take the pill voluntarily to escape his permanent dream state. Second of all, even provided that is the case, do you honestly believe that it completely negates the need for any further conversation? He is aware of Quato, Melina (specifically) and of the underground machine that can create a blue sky on mars. Lastly, if the dream was meant for Doug to release O2 into Mars’s atmosphere resulting in a blue sky then why would Rekall send in Edgemar when everything is going as it should just as McClane describes (People are trying to kill Doug left and right. He picked the adventure and the girl because his real life Mars alter ego is living it? The first thing you will see here is ROC curve and we can determine whether our ROC curve is good or not by looking at AUC (Area Under the Curve) and other parameters which are also called as Confusion Metrics. I’m guessing it’s just because they wanted the film to go out with a bang, opposed to saying anything about what’s really happening with Quaid. Meanwhile, in reality, he’s found in the cab unconscious and presumably taken back to Rekall for further “treatment.”. Just my two cents, hope it helps. There is no way to activate them without some type of memory manipulation. I have seen this movie so many times, I know the entire script by heart. I’ve been frequenting Overthinkingit.com for most of this year and have thoroughly enjoyed almost every article. What am I really sure about at this point? Quaid responds by throttling him and muttering, “My name is not Quaid!” The technicians tranquilize him and he falls unconscious. The girl they generate for him is clearly Melina, and the guys that works there says “blue skies on Mars” like it’s a ridiculous thing to happen and of course it does happen. Accuracy - Accuracy is the most intuitive performance measure and it is simply a ratio of correctly predicted observation to the total observations. They meet George in a private room, who opens his shirt to reveal that he is also Kuato, a conjoined, symbiotic creature with only a small head and arms. *Can someone confirm this in the comments? 5) all as a part of some huge conspiracy involving a Big-govenrment “agency” trying to enslave people on Mars, and hide a huge alien reactor that can terraform Mars in SECONDS Bits and pieces of recollections, not entire experiences. I didn’t see it in the original with Arnold. In some rheumatologic conditions, a cut score for the HADS‐A of 9 was recommended as useful for a diagnosis of an anxiety disorder i was already thinking : hey, if in his vacation dream at rekall, he kill his wife and then release an atmosphere on mars, how the hell he is going to think that this dream was really his vacations when he will wake up. The female Rekaller in charge of Quaid’s trip flicks her assistant the Rekall program which I assume holds all the fantasies Quaid would like to experience. Because you can only pinch yourself when you’re awake: EVERYONE KNOWS THAT! Sounds like a typical Hollywood-elite insult to their audience, when they say that the hero would rather DIE than live a normal average life, like Peter Pan where the kids stay in Neverland forever. That would MAKE this author, a bigger douche-bucket than the size of the Big Dipper; because THAT IS COMPLETELY MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE COINCIDENCE! The “surprise ending” is that Gogol was simply bored and started writing nonsense; meanwhile the moral is that fiction doesn’t have to make sense. Explore this notion by looking at the following figure, which shows 30 predictions made by an email classification model. Total Recall is a 2012 American science fiction action film directed by Len Wiseman.The screenplay by Kurt Wimmer and Mark Bomback was based on the 1990 film of the same name, which was inspired by the 1966 short story "We Can Remember It for You Wholesale" by Philip K. Dick.The film stars Colin Farrell, Kate Beckinsale, Jessica Biel, Bryan Cranston, Bokeem Woodbine, John Cho, and Bill Nighy. Therefore, this score takes both false positives and false negatives into account. One may think that, if we have high accuracy then our model is best. Bryan Cranston and Kate Beckinsale in 'Total Recall'. In our case, F1 score is 0.701. One good piece of evidence for “dream” is the scene where the Rekall guy appears on Mars to tell Quaid all of the terrible things that will happen to him if he doesn’t take the pill and exit the dream. The only thing that we know for sure is that Arnold really did go to Rekall, not what happened after or even during but Arnold was coherent up until that shot in the neck, so whatever turning point really went down happened after he passes out from the sedative. There are major plot points with out our ‘dreamer’ arnie. You guys have all made me quite sad. “All Reality” option: Quaid wakes up in the cab and the events of the movie actually occur. Going to Mars, finding out you’re an undercover secret agent, and saving the rebel cause; but then It’s a program,they write in what ever they want. August 2012, in Deutschland am 23. So with these facts, the techs are also making statements to reinforce his supressed memory to further seal the deal so to speak and push him into activation. That is why Rekall only needs to implant bits of recollections into the memory. But you know what? It was real. He also says they were going to shoot a final scene in Rekall to show a sad Sharon Stone as Quade is lobotomized, but they were so wildly over budget already there was no way they could do it, and they decided it would make more money if it wasn’t a pointedly sad movie. We leave not knowing if everything we saw actually happened or … They accuse him of blabbing about Mars while he was at ReKall, although because ReKall erased his memory, Quaid cannot remember anything about ReKall or being on Mars. Now, the blue skies on Mars and such does lend a bit of credence to the dream aspect, but it is a Science Fiction film right? For example it was called ‘Blue Sky on Mars’, featured two headed monsters, the alien artifact, and had a perfect 3D model of Melina all pre-programmed. Also the idea that he dreams that his beloved wife is trying to murder him whilst he has a fling is total rubbish. Though, I must admit, the fade to white and rekall jingle at the end are interesting arguments…but I tend to think they are put in to further this debate. So stop crying about armchair attorneys who live in their mother’s basement because you sound like one. I’ll keep the poll open for now and will update this post if the results shift significantly one way or the other. Before the procedure begins, he is asked to select a woman of his choice. Well him going to Rekal is part of his Rekal experience. You’ll even have fantasies about alien civilizations– AS YOU REQUESTED. It was still rubbish scientifically but it was fine for fantasy. We leave not knowing if everything we saw actually happened or … This isn’t Schrödinger‘s Ass on Mars we’re talking about here. and Amaze! Was Quaid hallucinating a whole complex and coherent story, filled with a cast of independently motivated characters and whole scenes of dialog and exposition even when he wasn’t in the room? People WERE lobotomized as a result of the Rekall-process BEFORE; and Arnold is told that the same will happen to HIM, if he doesn’t reject the fantasy by taking the Red Pill. But clearly he was clueless and only learning things AS HE EXPERIENCED THEM. Once activated, the memory wiped version of Quaid would return to Mars, win the trust of the rebels, and somehow lead Cohaagen to them. The salesman TELLS Arnold that the “Ego Trip” will seem like a vacation where he goes to Mars as a secret agent, and saves everyone while on a 2-week vacation. Could it be that Total Recall is a romantic, atheist tale of the birth of a man-created Eden realized in the heavens? These things would not occur independently of the character had it all been a delusion, because the characters would require his presence to exist. It’s really saying there’s this reality and there’s that reality, and both exist at the same time,” Paul Verhoeven explained in a Canadian hotel room, the day after the film screened at TIFF. Total Recall (United States/Canada, 2012) August 02, 2012. The most sensible…sadly enough…is that he was actually experiencing reality. In case you needed a reminder, this man was once the Governor of California. It had smooth curved lines, while the one on mars was made up of sharp concentric quadrilaterals. 10. He paid to be a Secret Agent and that’s exactly what he got.

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